Klonopin advice PLEASE

OhSeeAT

I recently aquired about 40 klonopin 1mg tables, and have either been biting them in half and letting them absorb as best as possible under my tongue, or snorting them. I’m also on suboxone 8-16 mg’s daily. I’ve noticed my tolerance go up very high just in two days of doing these kolonopins, from the first day feeling real chil off one, and the second day feeling decent of 6. Now today i have already taken 9, and don’t feel it much at all. Is there a more potent way of taking these kpins rather than biting them and letting them absorb sublingually, and what’s more effective sublingual, chewing, or inhalation? Any response would help asap, and let me know with new ideas of ways to administer these at a potent level.. and boofing is out of the question.
Thank you so much fellow beams of light
Oh See Eh Tea
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oxymoron310

Sublingual is the most efficient ROA, with the exception of IV’ing it (& the BA is only marginally higher when IV’d). You should definitely feel something from 9 Klonopin. Your tolerance is increasing. Take a break!!!

halfoz

yeah, kpins are fairly long effect benzos. meaning, its easy to take too many.

your suboxone use won’t effect your benzo tolerance.

if you dissolved 4mg of kpin sublingually all at once, i’m guessing you’d be struggling not to sleep in about an hour. or, i’ll just reread the post an notice you’ve already taken 9. ok. i’m also not seeing a follow up post, so’s i’m guessing the kpins did what we’d expect and ko’d your ass.

NeighborhoodThreat

yeah, kpins are fairly long effect benzos. meaning, its easy to take too many.

your suboxone use won’t effect your benzo tolerance.

Exactly.

9mg of clonazepam is a lot, so you’re probably asleep right now.

I hope you’re aware of the dangers of mixing Suboxone (buprenorphine) and large amounts of benzodiazepines. It does sound like you’ve got quite a tolerance, however.

opiatekrzy

ah, they say its dangerous to mix bupe and benzos, i agree only with opioid nieve people. sadly i need 20mg kpin to feel the body relaxation, “buzz”. oddly 8mg xanax gets me right, considering they dose eqivalent

psychopath

IVing is the best way to do clonazepam. My meth cook/friend that I do H with regularly shot a 2 mg klonopin and stood up and took 2 steps and fell face first on to the ground.

And holy Moses. 128 mg of sub a day, shooting a couple clonazepam should be weak as puppy pee to you.

OhSeeAT

I’ve taken 25 mgs in the past 24 hours and have not nodded out at all from them, additonally taking them with 32 mgs of suboxone, of course not at the same time. I either take a 2 hour nap, or just feel buzzed. But I have noticed that I have a strong hankering for candy. I have 5 more im about to take, and ill prob fall asleep half hour after because its almost 5am. but i cant stop taking them because im so desperate to get high off it. my theory is that my suboxone tolerance is so high that the kolonpin doesnt do enough nuerological change to get me high, they just make me emotionless. at times i was a little delayed or walking not quite straight line, but my thinking was completely clear. very dissapointed. i wanted to nod out. these things are very weak as far as getting fucking up, unless you have no tolerance to anyting. i wish i could get the 30 back, take a full week off of subs, and then mix the pins with the subs, but no i went through them all, barely reaching any type of high…:!

opiatekrzy

klonopin is more of a muscle relaxant rather then for anxiety like xanax

halfoz

god, i hate that i;m going to quote wikipedia, but:

“Clonazepam is a benzodiazepine derivative having anticonvulsant, muscle relaxant, and very potent anxiolytic properties. Clonazepam has an unusually long half-life of 18–50 hours, making it generally considered to be among the long-acting benzodiazepines.

Benzodiazepines such as clonazepam have a fast onset of action and high effectiveness rate and low toxicity in overdose but have drawbacks due to adverse reactions including paradoxical effects, drowsiness, and cognitive impairment. Cognitive impairments can persist for at least 6 months after withdrawal of clonazepam; it is unclear whether full recovery of memory functions occurs. Other long-term effects of benzodiazepines include tolerance, a benzodiazepine dependence as well as a benzodiazepine withdrawal syndrome occurs in a third of people treated with clonazepam for longer than 4 weeks.[5]

Clonazepam is classified as a high potency benzodiazepine and is sometimes used as a second line treatment of epilepsy. Clonazepam, like other benzodiazepines, while being first line treatments for acute seizures, are not first line for the long-term treatment of seizures due to the development of tolerance to the anticonvulsant effects. Clonazepam is also used for the treatment of panic disorder. The pharmacological property of clonazepam as with other benzodiazepines is the enhancement of the neurotransmitter GABA via modulation of the GABAA receptor.[5]”

kpins are definitely used for its anxiolytic properties. that’s the whole point of having the “instant dissolve” sublingual version.

looooots of people take kpins for anxiety, and to my knowledge k[ins are considered a better, safer alternative to xanax, due to rapid onset of action and its long half-life.

opiatekrzy

uhhh, how are we IVing Klonopin, i thought benzo pills arent water soluble, it seems under the tongue klonopin seems the less pasty..but any tips guys?

debaser

Some benzos are water soluble (a few) but definately not clonazepam.

opiatekrzy

please tell me what benzo tablets are water soluble, i know valium id have no luck, or xanax,, by its breakdown, idk…please inform me !

debaser

^ Midazolam and loprazolam (NOT lorazepam) are water soluble. Maybe another one of which I don’t remember the name.

opiatekrzy

ohh, the non commercial benzos rarely seen dispensed at pharmacies

debaser

Yeah, they’re not american benzos. Here (France) loprazolam is available at pharmacies.

opiatekrzy

i wish benzos were over the counter and amphetamines in america, but all it takes talking off symptoms to an easy doctor and getting xanax, klonopin, etc…adderall, dexedrine is the EASIEST to get in USA, even by known addicts, pyschiatrists here believe amphetamines reduce impulsive negative behavior such as drugs, crime, and helping trobled kids in school,, or for college kids who need to pass exams, or the single working mother, all doctors listen to these and RX it, i walked out with 180 dexedrine 15mg after one visit with shrink at drug counseling. Went to a primary, said i used to be on xanax, asked what dose, got it…so i mean pretty much anyone can get amphetamines, benzos doctors prefer older people, IDK WHY amphetamines are a schedle 2, and benzos are a schedule 4 in USA, so wouldnt benzos be easier to get RXED? either way they are sooooo commonly RX’e,d at age 14, my shrink first gave me ativan .5 4x daily, and dexedrine

NeighborhoodThreat

^ Midazolam and loprazolam (NOT lorazepam) are water soluble. Maybe another one of which I don’t remember the name.

Quoted because its really that damn important. Don’t try and IV a benzo that’s not water soluble.

i walked out with 180 dexedrine 15mg after one visit with shrink at drug counseling. Went to a primary, said i used to be on xanax, asked what dose, got it…so i mean pretty much anyone can get amphetamines, benzos doctors prefer older people, IDK WHY amphetamines are a schedle 2, and benzos are a schedule 4 in USA, so wouldnt benzos be easier to get RXED? either way they are sooooo commonly RX’e,d at age 14, my shrink first gave me ativan .5 4x daily, and dexedrine

That’s a good question, but its a bit off-topic. Also, don’t brag about your scripts too much here either…

psychopath

Ok…. some one who IS me has done this with clonazepam probably 5 times…. My body and I have a love hate relationship and I am mad at it from time to time and like to punish it with insoluble binders and occasionally hope for an embolism or two. (haha)

And my previous post in this thread was about 15 beers down…..

kokaino

klonopin is more of a muscle relaxant rather then for anxiety like xanax

No it is not, it is more of an anticonvulsant than anything. Clonazepam has ok muscle relaxant properties, great anti-anxiety properties, and poor sedative properties.

It’s not the best in any category. Lorazepam is a superior for panic attacks and about equal for general anxiety, lorazepam is also a super anticonvulsant, and a stronger sedative aswell.

Alprazolam (Xanax) is better than clonazepam only for panic attacks, they are about equal for general anxiety (if not, clonazepam might be better in the long run). As sedatives, they are equal and clonazepam is a superior anticonvulsant and it is a superior muscle relaxant.

Diazepam is also all around superior to clonazepam in just about everything. It’s a stronger sedative, stronger muscle relaxant, superior for panic attacks, and I’d say probably equal for general anxiety. As for anticonsulant properties, diazepam and clonazepam are about equal in that area. Diazepam is better for acute seizures and clonazepam is better for long term use as an anticonvulsant.

molly897

snorting them sky rockets your tolerance. i know from experience. i always stop at a mg if i snort it cause it also fucks your stomach up. i’m prescribed 3mg a day and always put em under my tongue or chew them if i want it to kick in faster. but i take it at scheduled times so i don’t ever have to crash or fiend for it. but yeah if i snort them i have to take 6mg the next day

i get 90 pills a month and i could easily go through them recreationally in a few days but you don’t want to build a tolerance to this shit trust me and if you fuck with 40mg you’re gonna experience some WDs for sure

MrRoot

I would advice staying out of alcohol while doing clonazepam. Here the brand name for clonazepam is Rivotril which on the street is called Raivotril which translates into a Ragetril as alcohol mixed with clonazepam here often leads up into beatings stabbings etc.

K’d-OUT-in-AZ

No it is not, it is more of an anticonvulsant than anything. Clonazepam has ok muscle relaxant properties, great anti-anxiety properties, and poor sedative properties.

It’s not the best in any category. Lorazepam is a superior for panic attacks and about equal for general anxiety, lorazepam is also a super anticonvulsant, and a stronger sedative aswell.

Alprazolam (Xanax) is better than clonazepam only for panic attacks, they are about equal for general anxiety (if not, clonazepam might be better in the long run). As sedatives, they are equal and clonazepam is a superior anticonvulsant and it is a superior muscle relaxant.

Diazepam is also all around superior to clonazepam in just about everything. It’s a stronger sedative, stronger muscle relaxant, superior for panic attacks, and I’d say probably equal for general anxiety. As for anticonsulant properties, diazepam and clonazepam are about equal in that area. Diazepam is better for acute seizures and clonazepam is better for long term use as an anticonvulsant.

But that’s only your opinion. Not everyone reacts the same to different benzodiazepines. If that were true they’d all prescribe one benzo (and these days from my experience with many different doctors its mostly clonazepam and alprazolam). For me clonazepam is a superior anxiolytic to all the other benzos and lorazepam is probably the weakest benzo I’ve ever taken. Its very subtle and only really good as an anticonvulsant (I was given a shot of it in rehab and it worked well when I was in seizures from alcohol/benzo withdrawal). In high doses it also seems to be a moderately well muscle relaxant. And as I’ve said before, I don’t find it to be an antipanic benzo in anyway, even if there literature pronouncing its efficiency as an antipanic benzodiazepine. It just doesn’t work for me. I think clonazepam is a better benzodiazepine for that reason. And there is literature about clonazepam being effective as an antipanic drug with the only drawback being its long onset. Its to be taken at the beginning day, every day, to prevent panic attacks while alprazolam is used right when a panic attack is kicking in. BUT I think alprazolam is much superior for panic attacks compared to clonazepam.

Peoples opinions on benzodiazepines do greatly depend on what benzo they are taking or have taken. I was prescribed clonazepam for most of my years on benzos so I prefer it. Lorazepam I was only prescribed for a few months and didn’t like it. Alprazolam I was prescribed for a few years, mostly just to switch off with clonazepam so that it would work better. Yeah, I know they are cross tolerant but the effects of one seem to come back when switching. Diazepam I was prescribed for maybe 8 months, only to taper off of the clonazepam. It is far superior as a muscle relaxant and anticonvulsant. Although I didn’t feel much anxiety relief from it. It is a good sedative. One drawback for me is that it accumulates in my body for so long and lasts forever. I’m talking into the following day. High doses WILL knock me out, almost as much as the hypnotics. Seriously. I got my DUI because I fell asleep at the wheel under the influence of diazepam. The entire day I was out of it. So even though it doesn’t work well for my anxiety, I still like it.

So with the four major anxiolytics I’d rate as follows:
1. Clonazepam
2. Diazepam
3. Alprazolam
4. Lorazepam

These are just my opinions.

OhSeeAT

I was prescribed for maybe 8 months, only to taper off of the clonazepam. It is far superior as a muscle relaxant and anticonvulsant. Although I didn’t feel much anxiety relief from it. It is a good sedative. One drawback for me is that it accumulates in my body for so long and lasts forever. I’m talking into the following day. High doses WILL knock me out, almost as much as the hypnotics. Seriously. I got my DUI because I fell asleep at the wheel under the influence of diazepam. The entire day I was out of it. So even though it doesn’t work well for my anxiety, I still like it.

So with the four major anxiolytics I’d rate as follows:
1. Clonazepam
2. Diazepam
3. Alprazolam
4. Lorazepam

These are just my opinions.

What can I do to make my clonzepam more sedative? I have tried KAVA KAVA extract with small amounts of alcohol and it hasn’t worked. I just want my nod back that I got the first time I took them with my Suboxone, which was also the last time. Anything you know of outside of combining it with illegal drugs that would hard to get a hold of that would make taking my clonzepam with suboxone very sedating and/or euphoric.

But aside from my desire to get the sedation I have not yet been able to achieve, the Clonzepam works great for treatment of anxiety. I can think so much clearer, speak my mind clearer, and not like you do when your on amphetamines…I’m losing hope at this point for the ability to be sedated from them with a tolerance to them and Suboxone… Please Help!!!!

Pegasus

You need to take time off for your body to get back to baseline. The thing with benzos is that once you pass a certain point, you’ll never feel satisfied. Reset your body to get back to the point where you feel just one like you did the first time, and this time be careful to not take too much. Once you pass a certain level of intoxication with benzos the effects become nearly impossible to enjoy as you are too intoxicated to enjoy the subtle effects. This may sound like it is all opinion, but you’d be surprised how commonly this happens. You pretty much confirmed this by saying that you got the best effects from the small first dose than from the later, much larger doses.

BTW, clonazepam is particularly bad at causing people to dose too high as it is fairly subtle for many. Don’t look for too much with benzos beyond a little relaxation… If you try to get too much out of them, you’ll likely just end up unsatisfied with the effects you’re feeling and losing control over your actions. Don’t underestimate the power of benzos!

Pegasus

I’m losing hope at this point for the ability to be sedated from them with a tolerance to them and Suboxone… Please Help!!!!

I’d switch to another benzo as you’re throwing yourself down a slippery slope at full speed trying to do this. You’ve taken 9mg already, 3x the max daily dose, and you’ve gotten to this point in just two days. This is obviously not sustainable…

OhSeeAT

Thank you for the advice, obviously it’s my Addictve side that wont step until I’m in Euphoric form, which I’ve found out does not occur with Klonopin. I’ve tried KAVA KAVA, GABA, Valerian and alcohol with it, along with my suboxone, and I never feel a “high” so to speak.. But I do appreciate the clarity of mind that my Klonopin provide me with..

K’d-OUT-in-AZ

Thank you for the advice, obviously it’s my Addictve side that wont step until I’m in Euphoric form, which I’ve found out does not occur with Klonopin. I’ve tried KAVA KAVA, GABA, Valerian and alcohol with it, along with my suboxone, and I never feel a “high” so to speak.. But I do appreciate the clarity of mind that my Klonopin provide me with..

Klonopin and any other benzodiazepine for that matter don’t really get you “high” in my opinion. Temazepam is the only benzodiazepine that can get me “high” but not any of the other benzos. Don’t expect to feel euphoric from Klonopin unless you suffer copious amounts of severe anxiety. Its generally these people who will feel euphoric from Klonopin simply because the relief of anxiety feels so good. Feeling “normal” is good enough. People who don’t suffer such anxiety don’t really feel anything more than muscle & mind relaxation, loss of inhibition & drowsiness. Sedation is possible at high doses, but not for everybody.

LYRICA will bring out the most in Klonopin and will definitely increase sedation and possible euphoria. I was prescribed Klonopin with Lyrica for a decent amount of time and before I became tolerant to the Lyrica, the combination was amazing. No anxiety, sedation, complete relaxation of the muscles, tension relief, euphoria.