Ne0
SO I was daily addicted to strong opiate for 3 years, I was thinking the idea of going to t methadone or buorenorphine maintenance treatment, but then again I started to think, how will they affect me? I knew you have to get these medicine every day every morning, no home taking doses. Well it isn’t much difference from using youre own opiates every day, you also have to go somewhere to get youre daily fix, ofc usually metahdon and buprenorphine treatments are free, so no more money problems. But one thin that really make me change my mind. Well i don’t know what kind of relieve you get from methadone or buprenorphine treatment, ok physical WDs are gone and then? The word “getting normal” from opioids is wildely used, but never really gone much specifies, for me getting normal when using opiates mean that I dont feel bad in my body anymore AND also my mind feels ok, Im not depressed anymore, I have focus and energy to do things. Will methadon or buprenorphine maintenance treatment work on that mental site? if they only take of the shit feeling of psychical WDS, then I think they are worthless. Why would I walk to clinic every fucking day if I feel wanting to day and even after taking the dose I my mind is still very depressed, no point at all, so why would anyone go to methadone or buprenorphine treatment? I quit my use by myself with other hard drugs, it was better idea. Im not sure how the mainteane treatment work, after 5 years hod you feel mentally? If you are depressed then the methadone dont have any use, id dosent take out any WDS. In my book deprsession, low enegry apathy are all part of WD, its not only about feeling terrible in body.
So I’d like to hear comments from people who have been treatment for over 4 years. 1 years goes aere not interested, as Ive heard that you might even nget nodding or buzz for the first year in the treatment, but what about that? Quitting methadone is so impossible, that for me I would just kill myself if i didnt work for my mental side anymore.
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7nos-SS373dOH
Bupe you get a weekly or monthly script.. So you get to take it home. It will curb your physical wds, unless you have a massive tolerance. I would say it relieves like 40-50% of the cravings and mental stuff.
Methadone, at the right dose will curb your mental and physical wds nearly %100, but most of the time you have to be in the program for a while to even think about take homes. ‘Cept for the weekend.
You’ll eventually have to quit these substances too! The WD from both of these is long. With methadone having the more severe symptoms. Paws can lasts months!
So do you want to pay the Piper now, or pay him interest later?
Ne0
Bupe you get a weekly or monthly script.. So you get to take it home. It will curb your physical wds, unless you have a massive tolerance. I would say it relieves like 40-50% of the cravings and mental stuff.
Methadone, at the right dose will curb your mental and physical wds nearly %100, but most of the time you have to be in the program for a while to even think about take homes. ‘Cept for the weekend.
You’ll eventually have to quit these substances too! The WD from both of these is long. With methadone having the more severe symptoms. Paws can lasts months!
So do you want to pay the Piper now, or pay him interest later?
Does them make me feel like I’m content and happy with my life? if not then there is no use for them, I just could quit as soon as possible and get good mentality state back.
For me feeling normal from opiates means I get positive outlook for life, no physical torture, my mind feels like normal Im interestefd thing that Ive always been interested and want to do them. SO thats what methadone or suboxe does?
7nos-SS373dOH
^ I think methadone has a better chance to do that than suboxone.. They both have the potential to make you happy, but then again happiness is subjective.
Methadone is a full agonist; you get all of the good feelings just like any other opiate.
Suboxone is a partial agonist; you get some of the feelings.
Some people can make suboxone work, for others its not enough to be content.
Ilove2nod
You have buprenorphine treatment WRONG! I have been on sub maintenance and yes, I have slipped up and relapses, all for the past 5 years its been a cycle of subs, then opiates/opioids like heroin or oxy, dilaudid, and other pharms, then subs again.. only like one time did I truly relapse for a good while, while still on bupe maint. but since then if I have had any slip ups, they have been fairly short lived, maybe 3-4 weeks tops.. my last time I just stopped my subs for a week, and did H… and had no problem going back on subs after that week.. I actually enjoy the way subutex feels, when done IV or plugged.. it doesn’t work well for me, sublingually at all.. that is why I used to slip up and relapse more when I took it sublingual.. it only has a 34% BA, and while I am still abusing an opioid, its not quite the same, because for one, it is a partial agonist opioid, not a full agonist.. I only use 8mg a day at most, in 2mg doses done IV throughout the day.. for the 100% BA it has.. it works great that way, but never would I suggest anyone do it.. I wish I just stayed plugging it, which IME owns the sublingual ROA, and has no dangerous side-effects or anything like IV, but feels nearly the same as IV.. just a tad weaker.. But that is a way to actually FEEL bupe, and it feels just like another opioid without any of the dangers of full agonists, like overdosing, or if you buy your pharms/dope of the street, getting bupe prescribed legally is much less risky when it comes to dealing with the police and whatnot.. So basically, I am dependent on bupe right now, and I bang it.. but does it not beat the alternative of shooting dope everyday, risking the possibility of an OD or getting arrested while sitting around waiting for your connect to be good in some parking lot for 3 hours, dopesick? I think it is a way better and safer alternative.. getting off of it is horrible, but I will stick with it as long as I have to before I fall back into my old habits.. I still love dope, oxy, opana, and dilaudid, and that is WHY I am still on bupe.. opioids totally fucked up my brain, and re-wired it to where I am not happy unless I have some form of one, whether its bupe or dope! so yes, bupe is HELPFUL! and no one ever get the idea that I am promoting, to go shoot it either like I did, yes it has ~100% BA or 100% of the bupe is absorbed when done that way, but no it is not worth it.. if you cant feel happy taking it sublingual, like its meant to be, plug it! its probably less harmful than sublingual, and its BA feels nearly triple that of sublingual, IME.. although some charts say its around 54%, I don’t buy that, I would think its more like 75% at least, the way it feels, and lasts as long as it does when plugged.. best all around ROA with bupe. I would probably be dead by now, with the amount of bupe, coke(sometimes) and benzos I was mixing together almost daily before getting on bupe maint.. many of my friends died from that exact combo.