Questions about trying Heroin Tar

JustOneTime

Snorting heroin
How much heroin should you use, and could you mix it with a vicodin pill to snort?
I know you have to mix it with a little water and maybe heat it a little first

I don’t have syringes to inject, and don’t want to waste a lot by smoking.
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phr

No body snorts Vicodin. The ratio of shit you don’t want to shit you want is completely fucked.

If you have no opiate tolerance, I wouldn’t recommend starting with any more than 50 mgs. Wait at least 30 minutes before redosing.

JustOneTime

Everyone’s telling me to measure out about 50 miligrams of heroin to snort or 10 to inject or whatever, but how do you measure that without a scale?!

OntarioGuy

well a bag is usually .1 or 100 milligrams,so divide it in half…

stirfry

You can’t. Also, you don’t know what percentage of that powder is heroin vs. inactive cuts. I don’t know if this will help, but 100mg is one tenth of a gram (but that’s only useful if you have exactly a gram of heroin). All you can do is start small, and work your way up.

drewbocop

Um, judging by your thread just beneath this wondering if you should mix fucking tar with “a vicodin” to snort, you don’t need to be IV’ing a god damned thing.

amapola

Hi OP,

I merged your two threads and will send it over to Basic Drug Discussion where you can get some answers. For cumulative simple questions like this your own thread in BDD asking them all in one place is most efficient.

OD >>> BDD

How much heroin should you use
This will depend on any prexisting tolerance to opioids, method of administration, and what you want to achieve.

and could you mix it with a vicodin pill to snort?
Snorting Vicodin is not a good idea as it contains lots of binders, fillers, and acetaminophen which will clog up your nose and prevent absorption of the diamorphine.

I know you have to mix it with a little water and maybe heat it a little first
Snorting is definitely your best bet as a first time dosing method for heroin. With BTH (black tar heroin) snorting a solution is the easiest method – the alternative trying to cut it or otherwise process it into a powder. Anything that requires heat to dissolve is more likely adulterants and not the actual diamorphine, however since you are snorting it and not injecting it have the cut dissolve isn’t that big of a deal.

Everyone’s telling me to measure out about 50 miligrams of heroin to snort or 10 to inject or whatever, but how do you measure that without a scale?!
You can’t measure it without a scale or balance of some sort. Furthermore as was mentioned above the potency of the heroin will be quite variable as well making accurate dosing even more dicey. This is why most people don’t start with heroin until they already have a fairly high tolerance. There is nothing that much greater with diamorphine than morphine, hydrocodone (e.g. Vicadon), or other not quite as strong opioids.

comatoserct

first off, don’t ever snort vicodin. This statement alone makes we wonder if you should be messing with heroin. but for harm reduction’s safe I’ll tell you what I used to do.

I used to take a visene bottle and clean it out real well (I used isopropyl alcohol 75% and washed it out well, then let it evaporate and dry because eye drops will cause serious diarrhea and vomiting).
Then I got a cooker (or spoon) and mixed all the tar I had with water, and if it was still sludgy, I’d add some heat to it. Once I got a decent brown liquid, I’d suck it up with the visene bottle and squirt it in my nose.
What you want to do is spray a tiny tiny amount up your nose (while snorting) until you reach your high.
I applaud you for not using needles, but to be honest, plugging and shooting are the best ways to use tar.
A lot of people smoke it, but very few do the “monkey water” method as explained above because it tastes/smells disgusting

The only way to snort black tar aside from this method is to get the tar that comes in really hard chunks, that can be crushed and broken into powder, This is usually the best tar you can get, but is only seen in certain parts of the country

Copperhead

Yeah stay away from snorting that Vicoden. One time years ago I met a guy that snorted BTH and he had a different method for doing it than anybody else I have ever seen. He would take one of those little balloon like the kind they sell tar in and put a little baking powder in it, not baking soda. Then he would drop a piece of the tar in there and flick balloon with his finger for about 30 seconds or so and what came out was a brown powder which he would snort. Its been so long ago I can’t remember if I tried it that way or not because I was an IV user at the time but it seemed to work for him.

Dr Rxpert

i agree with a couple of the above posters, if you are considering snorting vics, then should you really be messing with tar? you were like “i know you heat it and stuff” dude please be careful.

lozgod

Sometimes I get annoyed by certain questions but thank God there is a place to ask them because harm reduction saves lives. I don’t know about tar. Never even seen it but one time and someone else was using it and they were shooting it. He missed and I never seen a nastier looking bruise but back in the day we would roll up a dollar bill and toot a tiny bump and be nodding for hours, throwing up, the whole nine. This was North Philly dope in the 90s. Pretty good shit. So if you are opiate intolerant I would start with small bumps and give it a good 15-20 minutes to see how it affects you.

regfairfield

stick to eating vic’s

unsettled

don’t do opiates!

okay, you’re going to do them anyway, I agree with the people who say stick to eating vicodin.

if you absolutely must mess with tar beware that you are knocking at the devil’s door, and don’t be afraid of smoking it, it’s better to waste a little than to OD. with smoking (chasing the dragon) you can just take it hit by hit and stop when you feel about right. there is no consistency to the tar you get on the street.

so don’t do opiates is my advice.

if you choose to ignore this advice stick to vicodin

if you still are determined to live the dream that leads to nowhere except waiting for dope, watching “friends” turn into backstabbing liars, watching people OD and die in front of you, getting arrested and kicking in jail…. if you really want to live this glamorous life…

smoke it first, just one hit then wait….. then another hit…. go sloowwwwly or better yet go play a game of tennis or something.

lozgod

don’t do opiates!

if you still are determined to live the dream that leads to nowhere except waiting for dope, watching “friends” turn into backstabbing liars, watching people OD and die in front of you, getting arrested and kicking in jail…. if you really want to live this glamorous life…

That sums it up. You get hi for a couple months, stop getting hi, realize it’s a waste of money. Decide to quit and maybe 10, 20, even 30 hours later in the beginning something don’t feel right. Try to lay down and your legs are restless, got the shits, feel down. You do some dope hoping to get rid of that down feeling. Then instantly you feel like a million bucks. I didn’t put 2 and 2 together for months. The sickness wasn’t that bad at first and took forever to set in. Just thought I was developing RLS at first and didn’t think anything of the diarrhea. Just thought it was diarrhea. For me it was percocet but percocet always gave me energy so I didn’t even put it together then when it would take me out of the new found depression I was developing. Took me months to realize I was addicted. The WDs gradually got worse and worse and finally after a couple months I realized all my new found physical and mental problems vanished immediately after taking more percocet. Never thought it would happen to me in 10000 years.